Note: This is the raw, unedited transcript, with all audience chatter included. If you wish to read the edited version which also includes all the illustrations Edward presented (they are wonderful), please read the edited version.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Welcome, Fraulein Cloud, Fraulein Ceejay, Frau Emilly.
Ceejay Writer: Good to see you!
Edward Pearse: I’m seeing lots of orange Clouds 🙂
Sophie Cloud: Good afternoon!
Darlingmonster Ember: took a while for the clouds to part
Sophie Cloud: Yes, textures are taking their sweet time to load.
Edward Pearse: This will be fun. Todays presentation is rather picture intense
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Mine was a bit cranky also. I am still not certain if I’m missing a wall on the Neu Wulfenstadt town hall.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Duchess Liz, Fraulein Poison.
Ceejay Writer: Hmmmm, perhaps afterwards you could bombard me with pics for the website?
Edward Pearse: Can do
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Ja, bitte, Herr Duke. She has been generous enough to take over our archiving.
Liz Wilner: Greetings, Baron and everyone 🙂
Ceejay Writer: Wunnerful! firstname.lastname@example.org if that’s helpful, or however works for you
Edward Pearse: IM me your email and I’ll send you the photos, rather than send the textures and then you have to download and convert for the web
Edward Pearse: Heh
Ceejay Writer: Great minds think alike!
Ceejay Writer: I’ll drop the email on you in IM so you don’t lose it.
Edward Pearse: Send me an IM that way I will have a record
Edward Pearse: Ya
Bixyl Shuftan: Hello Ceejay
Ceejay Writer: Hello!
Edward Pearse: If I fall asleep halfway through this it’s Monday morning here
Jimmy Branagh: Hoy awl!
Sophie Cloud: Hello!
Wildstar Beaumont: greetings everyone !
Bixyl Shuftan: Greetings Wildstar
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Hallo, Admiral!
Ceejay Writer: Hoy Jimmy!
Jimmy Branagh: Hallo Herr Baron
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Jimmy, good work.
Jimmy Branagh: Hoy Miss Ceejay!
Emilly Shatner-Orr waits for some people to resolve from mist
Jimmy Branagh: Danke Baron!
Darlingmonster Ember: waves to Breezy
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Fraulein Artemis, sit wherever you like, welcome.
Ceejay Writer: Nice turnout!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Lady Breezy, what a nice surprise!
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hallo Herr Baron
Polly: hope I’m not sitting on anyone
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hello everyone good to see you
Ceejay Writer: BREEZY! glomp
Jimmy Branagh: An’ ‘ello awl ‘oo dint get th’ first one
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Well, not me
Bixyl Shuftan: 🙂
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Lord Eldemar, glad you’ve made it.
Breezy Carver: nods with a warm smile
Edward Pearse waves to all
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Welcome, Reyzadren.
Reyzadren: hey there klaus, still waiting for it to load
Breezy Carver: smiles cheerfully perts up
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: We’ve all found vision a bit problematic today, but Sundays are Sundays.
Edward Pearse: I’ve rezzed the pictures for today so hoping they will be mostly visible as needed
Breezy Carver: or perks even.
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Hello everyone
Sophie Cloud: Hey, what a big crowd today!
Nyx Malaspina: looks for an empty lap…
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach chuckles
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Herr Torrance, welcome.
Ceejay Writer: Uh Oh, Rory’s here. Quick, everyone act nonchalant.
Rory Torrance: hiya ceejay. is this in voice? not hearing…
Edward Pearse: Nope text.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Nein, not Voice.
Rory Torrance: oakily doakily then
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: It has been on rare occasions, but they are announced in advance.
Ceejay Writer: Local Chat,
Edward Pearse: Just giving it a couple of minutes for the late arrivals
Bixyl Shuftan: It’s in chat
Jimmy Branagh: This is also a test of speed typing ability
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Herr Baroque! It has been too long.
Emilly Shatner-Orr grins
Rory Torrance: sehr gut
Polly: interesting phenomenon: clouds opening doors
Edward Pearse: Yeah I cheated and lots of this I’ve written down already 🙂
Cassie Eldemar: smiles
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: That will make it easier for Fraulein Ceejay.
Ceejay Writer: That’s CHEATING? eyedarts
Jimmy Branagh: ((I have everything written for mine ahead except for witty badinage. Cut-paste king.))
Edward Pearse: Okie dokie, I think we can start
Ceejay Writer: ((Ditto, Jimmy.))
Rory Torrance: Fire when ready, Duke!
Jimmy Branagh: ((I would goo crazy otherwise))
Edward Pearse: My name is Edward Pearse.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Wait, you mean not everyone writes it in advance?
Edward Pearse: Hi!
Ceejay Writer: Apparently we ALL do!
Edward Pearse: Most of you in New Babbage are familiar with me
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: I should hope you do.
Edward Pearse: For those not, I’m one of founders of New Babbage and a long time fan of Steampunk.
Edward Pearse: I got interested in dieselpunk through the old sim of Seraph City.
Ceejay Writer: You found it? Was it lost?
Edward Pearse: Exhibit A
Breezy Carver: smiles
Edward Pearse: I wasn’t part of the founding group but discovered the sim through mutual friends
Edward Pearse: I created a nightclub there called Seraph Club.
Darlingmonster Ember: woot
Edward Pearse: While Seraph City has long gone, the Seraph Club still lives on, now in its new home of Cassandra City.
Ceejay Writer: I had many a fun night in your club.
Polly: the Roving Seraph Club
Jimmy Branagh: Oy just missed being a founder. I’m a fumbler Oy guess.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Quite charming.
Poison: here here
Edward Pearse: I will apologise in advance if this runs a little short.
Rory Torrance: A luvvily venue.
Edward Pearse: I volunteered as a last minute thing so I haven’t had time to check the run on this.
Ceejay Writer: More time for drinks after – no worries!
Darlingmonster Ember adjusts her little shorts
Edward Pearse: Dieselpunk is really an aesthetic rather than a genre.
Nyx Malaspina whispers: lms and schedule provided in some handy notecard. 🙂
Edward Pearse: As such there will be a lot of imagery in this presentation
Edward Pearse: This of course leads to a lot of opinion over what is and isn’t dieselpunk.
Rory Torrance: Huzzah!
Nyx Malaspina: claps hands…like pictures.
Edward Pearse: What I present today is mostly my own opinion but other schools of thought will be touched on here and there.
Edward Pearse: Dieselpunk the term, first came to use through an RPG called Children of the Sun, published in 2002.
Edward Pearse: It was never a big hit. I’ve never played it but the reviews I’ve read are “neutral”
Edward Pearse: Interestingly the world of Children of the Sun is somewhat different from what we think of when dieselpunk is used today.
Edward Pearse: It was very much an urban fantasy style setting.
Edward Pearse: It had magic, a variety of races and an assortment of critters, littered amongst the skyscrapers.
Rory Torrance: And an interesting font, at least.
Edward Pearse: I saw one description of it as D&D meets Saving Private Ryan
Edward Pearse: Similar to the transformation that steampunk undertook, dieselpunk too has expanded beyond a D&D campaign with a fantasy WW2 setting.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Interesting
Edward Pearse: Also similar to steampunk, it’s about the set dressing rather than the story itself.
Edward Pearse: By and large dieselpunk takes over where steampunk finishes.
Edward Pearse: It’s set roughly between WW1 and the 1950s.
Edward Pearse: I tend to aim for a more late 30s to early 40s style when designing things myself.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Welcome, Fraulein Baker. Do come have a seat.
Edward Pearse: The aristocracy features a lot less in dieselpunk than steampunk
Edward Pearse: While you will get officers in military settings there’s far less Dukes, Barons and Ladies.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach chuckles
Daisy Baker: Perhaps I’ve overdressed.
Edward Pearse: As with the change in time period most of the great monarchies of the 19th century had disappeared by this time.
Wildstar Beaumont: no Ladies … sounds scandalous
Edward Pearse: There is also a larger involvement of aeroplanes in dieselpunk.
Nyx Malaspina: but plenty of dames….
Edward Pearse: Steampunk co-opted the airship but in reality the airships heyday was the 1920s to 30s
Edward Pearse: Britain had the R100 and the R101.
Edward Pearse: With the R101’s crash in France in 1930 that effectively killed Imperial Airship Scheme
Rory Torrance: Such a pity…
Polly: funny – lots of train crashes didn’t put an end to rail
Edward Pearse: The Zeppelin company continued with airships until the Hindenburg disaster in 1937 brought
Edward Pearse: that to a screeching halt.
Edward Pearse: As steampunk is the age where steam engines powered the world with soot and a Victorian aesthetic,
Edward Pearse: dieselpunk is when diesel engines ruled along with the grease and oil required to run them.
Edward Pearse: And just as there are those who like their steampunk brass to be shiny and their wood to be teak,
Ceejay Writer: It seems to appeal to most of my mechanically inclined friends.
Edward Pearse: there are dieselpunks who like their engines clean and their buildings repaired.
Edward Pearse: So much so that some have created a subgenre called decopunk.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: I still haven’t figured that out yet.
Jimmy Branagh: Oy love th’ smell of grease and oil on th’ morning …
Edward Pearse: I personally disagree with splitting it into a smaller genre, but each to their own.
Daisy Baker: Mm, you’re telling me…
Breezy Carver: lol
Wildstar Beaumont: 🙂
Sophie Cloud: yes, please wipe your boots before coming into my kitchen
Daisy Baker: Again, I do apologize for “appearing from the future” so to speak.
Ceejay Writer: Meh, Steampunk is all fragmented up too, for me it’s all a happy jumble.
Edward Pearse: I have also seen people try and put things like Mad Max into the dieselpunk genre.
Prof: people like their bit of the pie
Rory Torrance: Let us roll our eyes in unison.
Vernden Jervil: Oh we have a time travel incident at least once a month, no worries
Edward Pearse: While I understand why, to me post-apocalyptic genres are another beast altogether.
Darlingmonster Ember: ouch
Nyx Malaspina: considers how many times she’s tried to explain rococo punque and given up.
Ceejay Writer: Daisy, no worries at all!
Edward Pearse: snorts
Daisy Baker: Especially since I tend to appear from the more…red light district of the future.
Emilly Shatner-Orr grins
Edward Pearse: Oh fer
Rory Torrance: Nice graphics!
Edward Pearse: Looks like the right hand parcel is full
Darlingmonster Ember: nod
Jimmy Branagh: ((Lucky day, everything’s rezzing))
Edward Pearse: Continuing
Edward Pearse: As a rough guide steampunk uses a lot of brass and brown as its base palette.
Nyx Malaspina: camming wildly
Edward Pearse: In a similar way dieselpunk uses greys and chrome.
Ceejay Writer: (Daisy, I ran a burlesque club in Seraph City.)
Daisy Baker: (I was probably going to dance for it)
Jimmy Branagh: ((Someone ran one in Babbage ‘way back too))
Ceejay Writer: 😀
Edward Pearse: Posters and artwork tend to hark back to the propaganda styles of the 30s and 40s
Edward Pearse: and there is a huge influence of art deco, especially in the art.
Ceejay Writer: ((I worked for that one too Jimmy!))
Emilly Shatner-Orr: (Well, I was thinking about it, Miss Daisy, so you’re not alone.)
Edward Pearse: General settings are often dark though.
Jimmy Branagh: ((Oy dint wanna say nuffin; L) ))
Emilly Shatner-Orr smiles at Jimmy
Edward Pearse: As I mentioned before there’s a lot of greys in dieselpunk,
Sophie Cloud: I’d love to see a museum of your posters, they are brilliant.
Edward Pearse: but the noir influence with contrast and lighting also features considerably in many aspects.
Galactic Baroque: (Mad Max is gasoline fantasy, not post-apoc. Fight me.)
Darlingmonster Ember: pics are promised for the journal logs
Rory Torrance: WWII was a grim period…
Emilly Shatner-Orr: No, I agree.
Edward Pearse: I was asked about dieselpunk music.
Edward Pearse: I’ll say up front that trying to pigeonhole dieselpunk music is even harder than trying to define steampunk music, so I’m not even going to try.
Nyx Malaspina: electroswing?
Edward Pearse: Much like steampunk music is “music that steampunks like”, so too dieselpunk music is “music that dieselpunks like”.
Edward Pearse: That said, Swing and Big Band music tends to feature heavily in the genre.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Electroswing is mostly something everything agrees on
Edward Pearse: As I said there is a large 1930s-40s aesthetic in dieselpunk.
Edward Pearse: There’s a heavy military element with lots of uniforms around.
Cassie Eldemar: 🙂
Nyx Malaspina: s h o u l d e r p a d s
Galactic Baroque: l a p e l s
Daisy Baker: ((I tend to play my character as a poster girl in addition to former air force mechanic))
Emilly Shatner-Orr: A lot of Hellboy fits into the aesthetic
Edward Pearse: T a y l o r i n g
Emilly Shatner-Orr: In one sense or another
Daisy Baker: ((But that can be a story for another time))
Rory Torrance: High fashion gas masks?
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Why not?
Edward Pearse: Since many of those uniforms are WW2 inspired there’s been suggestion that dieselpunk leads to Nazi cosplay or at least Nazi fetishism.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Anything that deals with uniforms gets that
Edward Pearse: I also think that people saying that couldn’t tell the difference between a German uniform and a Belgian one.
Darlingmonster Ember: nod
Edward Pearse: But when you have State Police who dress like this I don’t think it carries much weight.
Edward Pearse: Current uniform of the New Jersey State Police for those wondering
Polly: REZ DARNIT!!!!!!
Edward Pearse: That said, you always need bad guys.
Nyx Malaspina: Ho….leave my home state outta dis.
Polly: New Jersey is all foggy
Edward Pearse: The pinup aesthetic also features heavily in the depiction of women.
Poison: Nj NY CT Ma Rhode Island all similar uniforms
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Especially in SL iterations
Edward Pearse: I think the pinup aesthetic is certainly one of the reasons it’s a lot easier to find pictures of dieselpunk women than of dieselpunk men.
Edward Pearse: As I said earlier, dieselpunk is more set dressing than actual genre.
Edward Pearse: As such it tends to be use existing genres for the story and dress them up accordingly.
Nyx Malaspina whispers: (ladies..check out the dark fair for a hat that might meet these requirements.)
Rory Torrance: That gal on the far left looks SO authentic >cough cough<
Daisy Baker: (Speaking of, if anyone needs a poster model for their gallery…)
Polly: looks like all the gents need are joddhies, riding boots and a smart military jacket
Edward Pearse: Pulp is a heavy component of dieselpunk.
Edward Pearse: Properties such as Indiana Jones and Doc Savage, to The Shadow and Metropolis.
Darlingmonster Ember: yay!
Edward Pearse: Pulp started as a nickname for the adventure stories that were being published on very cheap paper (pulp).
Prof: A pair of oily overalls
Ceejay Writer: That tends to be my personal favorite aspect!
Edward Pearse: The name stuck with the genre.
Edward Pearse: There are many stories that were published in pulp mags but tend not to be viewed as pulp.
Edward Pearse: Pulp is often an action adventure story that does for thrills rather than quality of writing.
Edward Pearse: Or at least it did
Edward Pearse: Noir can also be a part of dieselpunk.
Edward Pearse: Big city detectives, femme fatales, gangsters, mad scientists, you can do it all
Vernden Jervil likes noir
Edward Pearse: Certainly the Noir genre can be adapted to other aesthetics anyway.
Edward Pearse: Blade Runner is probably the best example of a non-noir Noir movies.
Edward Pearse: A lot of dieselpunk is about adding in retrofuturism to the setting.
Edward Pearse: Al Capone is not dieselpunk.
Edward Pearse: Al Capone with an army of robot goons could very well be dieselpunk.
Jimmy Branagh: Sky Captain and the Worls of Tommorow
Edward Pearse: FDR with an electromagnetic repulsorlift chair.
Jimmy Branagh: World
Edward Pearse: The possibilities are pretty much endless.
Edward Pearse: Cinema has given us a few offerings that have tried to capture the dieselpunk feel.
Edward Pearse: As Jimmy mentioned Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is probably the best example.
Jimmy Branagh: The film wasn;t too good but it looked great.
Edward Pearse: Sky Captain features giant robots, planes than can double as submarines, giant flying airbases, mad science, the Hindenburg III, and a whole bunch of other things.
Daisy Baker: The Rocketeer comic moreso than the film, but i do count the Rocketeer…err, as you can tell.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: There’s definitely a strong dieselpunk feel in the Russian Guardians movie, but it is more far-fetched
Rory Torrance wonders if “Gravity’s Rainbow” would qualify as dieselpunk… more fantasy than scifi really…
Emilly Shatner-Orr: I also tend to toss Dark City in
Edward Pearse: The Rocketeer is heavily pulp but again I think captures the dieselpunk feel.
Darlingmonster Ember: yes!
Edward Pearse: Hey who’s giving this presentation? 🙂
Edward Pearse: Flyboy Cliff Secord stumbles across a jetpack made by Howard Hughes and has to deal with US government agents, Nazis and spies while trying to save his girlfriend.
Vernden Jervil: We are trying to help you make the entire hour!
Nyx Malaspina: that brings us back to aesthetics….what about books….I don’t read that genre but surely there must be authors who write this genre.
Emilly Shatner-Orr ducks her head
Edward Pearse: We’ll get there
Edward Pearse: The movie is an adaptation of a comic book character created by Dave Stevens that first appeared in 1982, the year after Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Edward Pearse: In the comics Cliff’s girlfriend Betty is heavily inspired by pinup queen Bettie Page and is a lot less PG than the movie was.
Daisy Baker grins.
Daisy Baker lifts her leg just high enough, then folds it over the other.
Edward Pearse: The movie Dark City presents a different take.
Edward Pearse: Less pulp adventure it and more suspense thriller (I hesitate to call it a horror) it concerns an amnesiac man who struggles with the reality he is presented with.
Edward Pearse: The setting is again very 1940s in its appearance, and is entirely set at night.
Edward Pearse: I recommend all three
Nyx Malaspina: (forgot about that film…really enjoyed it!)
Ceejay Writer: 2013 Movie: Snowpiercer.
Edward Pearse: Iron Sky I would argue at least starts out as a dieselpunk movie.
Edward Pearse: There’s not much more dieselpunk than space Nazis on the moon.
Ceejay Writer: Fully agree.
Edward Pearse: 1940s flying saucers and moon bases.
Jimmy Branagh chuckles
Edward Pearse: There’s also a sequel which I haven’t seen yet but it digs out all the pulp tropes it can get its hands on
Edward Pearse: Following a nuclear holocaust on earth, survivors living in an abandoned Nazi base on the far side of the Moon board a barely-functioning spacecraft, and travel to the nucleus of the hollow Earth in an attempt to recover the Holy Grail from a group of reptilian shape-shifters who are led by Tyrannosaurus-riding Adolf Hitler.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Red fire!
Edward Pearse: No I am not making this up.
Darlingmonster Ember: ga wuh?
Edward Pearse: By a similar extent the opening of Hellboy also uses the dieselpunk aesthetic.
Polly: think I’ve had dreams like that
Edward Pearse: I’ve already mentioned Nazis, so Nazi’s with an immortal Rasputin and a clockwork undead
Edward Pearse: SS officer pretty much nail it on the head.
Sabine Artemis: Iron Sky.
Nyx Malaspina: XD
Darlingmonster Ember: yep
Edward Pearse: The first of Marvel’s Captain America movies is very dieselpunk, although again, it heavy on the pulp storyline.
Edward Pearse: Giant 6 wheeled cars, the Super Valkyrie plane, and even the little one man submarine at the start are all examples of future tech but done in a 1940s style.
Edward Pearse: Interestingly director Joe Johnson’s work on the Rocketeer landed him the recommendation to direct Captain America: The First Avenger.
Edward Pearse: So there may be stylistic similarities beyond the setting.
Daisy Baker: Ahhh, love that one, too
Ceejay Writer: giddy So. Many. Pictures.
Edward Pearse: Sucker Punch, for all its issues as a movie again has some excellent dieselpunk imagery
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach grins
Prof: I always though April and the Extraordinary World crosses genres, from SP to DP – steam power taken the extreme and ending with rocket ships
Nyx Malaspina: waits for Tank Girl to be mentioned…yes yes I know…
Edward Pearse: I didn’t include pictures but I also like me some Alec Baldwin The Shadow
Emilly Shatner-Orr: (This is gonna be heck to blog.)
Edward Pearse: Huh. Actually Tank Girl completely slipped my mind
Edward Pearse: But yes, Tank Girl
Poison: green hornet
Edward Pearse: Comics over the movie
Edward Pearse: Though the movie has its charm
Edward Pearse: TV tends to be a bit less forthcoming with the genre
Ceejay Writer: No worries. I’ll have it blogged by days end tomorrow!
Ceejay Writer: I’m used to the madness.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach looks appreciative
Ceejay Writer looks slightly deranged
Liz Wilner: would the series His Dark Materials qualify?
Edward Pearse: Marvel’s Agent Carter definitely has a dieselpunk flair
Edward Pearse: I suppose that’s to be expected following on from the Captain America movie.
Rory Torrance: Surely Dark Materials is a bit too much of an alternate time line
Edward Pearse: The series features Peggy Carter working with the SSR.
Edward Pearse: There’s stolen high tech weapons, made by Howard Stark
Edward Pearse: There’s comic book villains and weird science and a whole bunch of things.
Vernden Jervil: I don’t think it is too alternate…and don’t call me Shirley.
Darlingmonster Ember: yum
Edward Pearse: Plus it’s set in the late 1940s so there’s that look with all the tech.
Edward Pearse: The anime Last Exile has some excellent dieselpunk vehicles.
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: What is interesting is my father was an engineer on cargo ships doing the Pacific Rim trade. He started on diesel powered ships, moved to steam which was more efficient, and then to atomic power. So the genres almost seem to be reversed.
Edward Pearse: The van ships are planes that fly by a form of antigravity (I don’t remember it being properly explained)
Edward Pearse: I’ve seen Tales From the Gold Monkey suggested as a contender.
Ceejay Writer: Roger, got your vector, Vernden
Edward Pearse: This 80s TV show rode the wave of Indiana Jones with a 1930s smuggler group based around the Pacific Islands.
Edward Pearse: I remember the series. I’m unsure, but I supposed if we can take Indiana Jones as an influence then sure, why not.
Prof: City of Ember?
Ceejay Writer: I’d like to see that series again and see how I feel about it.
Edward Pearse: Computer games have brought their own contribution to dieselpunk
Sasha Prismara Featherlight: I just started watching the Walking dead: world beyond, good start to the apocalypse. Seems more of a political agenda going on finally in the storyline
Edward Pearse: Let me just shuffle some space here for a sec
Sasha Prismara Featherlight: It may not be steam punk, but it’s punk so far I think
Ceejay Writer watches Salon building collapse
Polly: surfeit of images crowding my camera out the door
Edward Pearse: Of these I would say Crimson Skies would be the best known
Darlingmonster Ember: nods
Edward Pearse: Crimson Skies started as a board game in 1998 and was adapted to PC in 2000
Edward Pearse: Set in alternateive 1930s where the United States has collapsed, air travel is the most common form of transport. This has lead to…
Edward Pearse: Sky Pirates!
Edward Pearse: The aeroplanes featured all sorts of weirdness with bent wings and rear fitted propellers.
Edward Pearse: Iron Harvest was released last year and has seen mostly positive reviews
Edward Pearse: Real Time Strategy game set in the early 1920s.
Edward Pearse: It features giant Mechs and looks pretty impressive, though I’ve yet to play it myself
Vernden Jervil: There is also a board game set in the same world as Iron Harvest called Scythe.
Edward Pearse: It makes me think of a steampunk setting where the technology has advanced forward to the point of the first world war.
Sasha Prismara Featherlight: The golden compass, always think of that with that theme
Edward Pearse: Golden Compass and His Dark Materials is the same thing
Polly: movie aesthetic a bit different to TV series though
Edward Pearse: Generally gets lumped in with steampunk, though I’m not sure it;s either
Ceejay Writer: Wasn’t the original City Hall here in Babbage based on the tall building in Golden Compass?
Jimmy Branagh: Yes
Edward Pearse: That was the third City Hall, but yes
Jimmy Branagh: That was the secomd Town Hall, built by Loki Eliot
Ceejay Writer: Ah. See, I shoulda got to town earlier!
Jimmy Branagh: Yes, 3rd.
Edward Pearse: Wolfenstein
Ceejay Writer: Also Not A Founder, Jimmy.
Edward Pearse: Wolfenstein is so old that when the first game was released it was on the Apple II
Jimmy Branagh: Eh?
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach frowns and resets the Tipbot.
Edward Pearse: The first Castle Wolfenstein was essentially sneak in and steal the plans and kill Nazis.
Edward Pearse: Not a huge amount of dieselpunk there.
Edward Pearse: But as the series progressed,
Edward Pearse: I think there have been 13 or so games now
Edward Pearse: it introduced the SS Paranormal Division, the Spear of Destiny, Adolf Hitler in power armour, and a variety of other weirdness.
Edward Pearse: Bioshock is a personal favourite
Edward Pearse: If you haven’t played it, essentially you are the lone survivor of a plane crash who is lucky enough to wash up near a giant light house in the middle of the Atlantic somewhere.
Edward Pearse: The light house is the top of a huge undersea city called Rapture.
Edward Pearse: Sadly, free market capitalism went wild and one of the citizens used his influence to stage a coup over the Rapture’s population has rioted and you’re stuck in the underwater city with a bunch of crazies.
Ceejay Writer: So it’s Myst with Rabies?
Edward Pearse: Rapture is a gorgeous vision of art deco
Emilly Shatner-Orr: And weaponized courtesy
Edward Pearse: I would pay real money for a mod that lets me skip the whole game and just wander the city.
Izabelle1: atlantus reboen?
Rory Torrance: That would also suit me, Edward
Edward Pearse: As for literature
Edward Pearse: I personally loved K.M. Weiland’s Storming.
Daisy Baker: This has been fun, loves, but I think I must be moving on. Was a pleasure to see you all.
Edward Pearse: The characters were a bit cliched but the story was great fun!
Bixyl Shuftan: I need to head out
Bixyl Shuftan tips his hat
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Gute Nacht, those leaving.
Edward Pearse: Some other recommendations
Jimmy Branagh: Noight Miss!
Edward Pearse: A Fistful of Nothing by Dan Glaser – 2014
Edward Pearse: Leviathan by Scott Westerfeld – 2009
Nyx Malaspina: XD
Izabelle1: i am artfull hammerer’s Niece
Edward Pearse: The Mammoth Book of Dieselpunk edited by Sean Wallace – 2015
Ceejay Writer: Take care those leaving peoples!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Bitte, if you wish to appreciate our speaker before you leave, pay the small machine at the front of the stage.
Edward Pearse: And I’ll throw in Fatherland by Robert Harris – 1992
Edward Pearse: And a final shoutout to one of my favourite radio characters of all time
Edward Pearse: The Red Panda
Ceejay Writer: And the Flying Squirrel!!!!!!!
Edward Pearse: Inspired by old radio shows like The Shadow and Green Hornet, the story starts in 1930s Toronto and ran for 13 glorious years
Edward Pearse: https://decoderringtheatre.com/shows/red-panda-adventures/
Edward Pearse: Decoder Ring Theatre also created Black Jack Justice
Vernden Jervil: And is still going on a lesser level.
Ceejay Writer: It’s really good – I’ve played each ep multiple times.
Edward Pearse: Noir Detective
Ceejay Writer: Look for Black Jack Justice there, too.
Edward Pearse: So that mostly covers it I think
Edward Pearse: Any questions?
Jimmy Branagh applauds
Emilly Shatner-Orr applauds
Ceejay Writer whistles and stomps her feet
Darlingmonster Ember applauds
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach applauds
Vernden Jervil: cheers
Liz Wilner: well done, Edward!
Sophie Cloud applauds
Jimmy Branagh: Good Salon. And you filled the entire hour!
Izabelle1: Thank you! 🙂
Emilly Shatner-Orr: And did not crash the sim!
Sophie Cloud: Excellent!
Cassie Eldemar: thank you Edward, I learned a lot
Rory Torrance: Thanks for the links!
Ceejay Writer: Very well done – you touched on many movies/books/etc I hadn’t heard of and will check into
Ceejay Writer: Though I think I will buy you a slide projector for your birthday. 😉
Edward Pearse: The Mammoth one is short stories. Some hit and miss as you expect
Nyx Malaspina: when is the next shindiggie at the club?
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Your Grace, you did brilliantly for short notice.
Ceejay Writer: Short story collections is a good way to explore various authors
OldeSoul Eldemar: wonderfu
Edward Pearse: Seraph Club will be Feb for me
Jimmy Branagh: Great job.
Emilly Shatner-Orr: You did. Thank you so much.
Nyx Malaspina: XD
Edward Pearse: I’m still trying to get the new Mixxx software to work
Cassie Eldemar: thank you Baron and thank you everyone
Rory Torrance: Well, good evening to you all, friends and strangers.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Anyone wishing to support the Salon itself, you can pay the airship overhead.
Jimmy Branagh: Noight sir, and awl
OldeSoul Eldemar: Thank you Your Grace, thanks for hosting Herr Baron-everyone take care !
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Gute Nacht, those leaving.
Edward Pearse: Glad you enjoyed it
Polly: thankees Duke – that was very interesting
Polly: goodbye Herr Baron and all
Jimmy Branagh waves and poofs
Nyx Malaspina: now considers buying this helmet….
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Take care everyone. stay safe this week
Emilly Shatner-Orr: Indeed. And I’m glad I took notes, definitely looking into the books
Wildstar Beaumont: fascinating discussion … and made me nostalgic for seraph city
Sophie Cloud stands and waves, “Thank you for a wonderful presentation. It’s great to see a big crowd.”
Edward Pearse: Oh yes my outfit is from Set to Stun. Check them out on Marketplace
Wildstar Beaumont: good night everyone
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Goodbye
Liz Wilner: Good night all…thank you, Baron and Edward!
Nyx Malaspina: Great job as always. 🙂
Emilly Shatner-Orr makes a note of Set to Stun, too, she’s looking to make a list of good menswear shops.
Edward Pearse checks to make sure he hasn’t left anything
Emilly Shatner-Orr: But for all else, take care!
Edward Pearse: Set to Stun has a full range of Classic Trek stuff too
Edward Pearse: Stay safe all
Ceejay Writer: And I’m off! Take care all!