Sporting! Salon Poster
Unedited Transcripts

Sporting! With Liz Wilner and Oriella Charik (Unedited)

To enjoy the artwork discussed in this salon, please view the edited version of the transcript.

Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Welcome Lord Admiral!
Tepic Harlequin: classy place, ain’t it Mr beaumont!
Wildstar Beaumont: lovely !
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach chuckles
Ceejay Writer: WOW
Liz Wilner: hi Ceejay 🙂
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Fraulein Ceejay!
Ceejay Writer: Hi!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: How splendid.
Tepic Harlequin: ello Miss Ceejay!
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Hello CeeJay!
Ceejay Writer: Hi all!
Ceejay Writer: This place has that new smell. *sniffs*
Wildstar Beaumont: hi Olde!
Wildstar Beaumont: hi Jimmy !
Wildstar Beaumont: hi Cassie 🙂
Liz Wilner: hi Olde 🙂
Liz Wilner: hi Cas 🙂
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Eldemars, how lovely.
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Yay, OldeSoul,. Cassie and Jimmy!
Cassie Eldemar: hallo Herr Baron 🙂
Cassie Eldemar: hi Tamlorn 🙂
Cassie Eldemar: waves to Liz and Ori
Liz Wilner: hi Jimmy 🙂
Cassie Eldemar: hi Wild
Jimmy Branagh: Hoy Awl!
Tepic Harlequin: hey Jimmy! there’s room up front!
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hello Duchess Liz and Oriella
Jimmy Branagh: Oy wos a little disoriented droppin’ in. Gotta change me LM
Cassie Eldemar: hallo Wulfride
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hallo Herr Baron
Tepic Harlequin: evenin Mr and Mrs Eldemar!
Cassie Eldemar: hi Tepic 🙂
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hallo Frau Blitzen
Cassie Eldemar: hi Timmy
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hello Lord Tamlorn —
OldeSoul Eldemar: Good to see you Master Jimmy –
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hello Dear Ceejay
Ceejay Writer: Hi Olde!
Wulfriðe Blitzen: Hallo there Cassie and Olde!
Jimmy Branagh: Hoy Tepic Laird Herr Baron Miss Liz Miss Ceejay Admiral an awl!
Jimmy Branagh takes a deep breath
Liz Wilner: lol
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Really lovely to see you all.
OldeSoul Eldemar: Good to see you Admiral
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach grins at Jimmy
Ceejay Writer: HOY JIMMY
Cassie Eldemar: hello Ceejay 🙂
Jimmy Branagh: Woy is Tepic armed, Tepic?
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: All right, we’re still looking for various bits of furniture to restore, but let us not waste our speakers’ time.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Sit whereever you might like in the provided seating. If you would prefer a wearable chair, please contact me in IM. The director’s chairs are for Tinies.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: …when they get put back.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Please remove all lag-feeding thingamajigs you might be wearing.
Tepic Harlequin: errrrr…… see them so…. blokes in the picture to the left? that’s why, just in case any of em turn up….
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: A tip jar minion is present for our speaker. Do please show your appreciation!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach points at the clock-clank right in front of the lectern
Jimmy Branagh: Cor, Oy dint think of thet …
Liz Wilner: oh dear…please no chairs on the stage…but thank you
Jimmy Branagh pats the LeMat under his jacket.
Tepic Harlequin: eight barreled shotgun, reckon that’s sportin enough….
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Any tips to help support the establishment will also be welcome – just click this handsome clank floating above us.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: If you are not a member of the AEther Salon group, there are signs that will let you join up. You’ll be most heartily welcome.
Princess Selena looks around and appreciates the new building!
Liz Wilner: hi Princess 🙂
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hello Princess – it is lovely isn’t it
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Edited and unedited transcripts of these proceedings will be posted eventually at… erm, Fraulein Ceejay, what was that address again?
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Welcome, Highness!
Liz Wilner: hello Sophie 🙂
Jimmy Branagh: How come there’s numbers on the floor?
Sophie Cloud: Hello!
Cassie Eldemar: hi Princess 🙂
Tepic Harlequin: one of the Brothers had an attack of the maths in here, Jimmy
Wulfriðe Blitzen: You’ll have to ask Tenk, Jimmy
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Because the Clockwinder’s builders had no notebooks.
Ceejay Writer: The Salon transcripts have a new home.
Jimmy Branagh: Ahh …
OldeSoul Eldemar: Lovely to see you Lady Sophie
Cassie Eldemar: hi Junie, Philip, and Sophie
Ceejay Writer: I’m still backfilling older salons, but the current stuff is there.
Ephemeria: A very good evening cher amis
Junie Ginsburg waves
Junie Ginsburg: hello all
Sophie Cloud smiles, “It’s lovely to be here. The talk will be very nice.”
OldeSoul Eldemar: Hello Philip –
Philip Underwood: Hello all!
OldeSoul Eldemar: Waves to Lady Junie
Junie Ginsburg: hi hi!
Jimmy Branagh: Hoy Mr. Philip!
Ceejay Writer: Today’s transcript should be posted by day’s end, if you want to review or share it with anyone.
OldeSoul Eldemar: Lady Strifeclaw sends here regrets and her love to all.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: We have some refreshments in the back, bitte, help yourselves.
Jimmy Branagh: An’ Miss Junie!
Tepic Harlequin: ello Mr Underwood
Philip Underwood: Hello Tepic
Tepic Harlequin: Miss Junie! watcha!
Philip Underwood: Hello Selena, have not seen you in a while
Junie Ginsburg: hey Tepic!
Philip Underwood: Hey Jimeh!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Our speakers have been here several times before. Her Grace Liz, Duchess of Trikassi in Rosehaven, and her court wizardess, the Lady Oriella Charik, host the Relay for Life fundraising Royal Ascot event annually.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Each year, they present a new aspect of equine and racing history to us. Damen, the floor is yours.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach applauds
Philip Underwood: Und guten abend, Herr Baron! Wie gehts?
Liz Wilner: Greetings, everyone! Thank you all for coming. Today, Lady Charik and I will discuss the art genre collectively known as Sporting Art, with a special concentration on British artists and artworks.
Jimmy Branagh applauds
Wulfriðe Blitzen applauds
Junie Ginsburg applauds
Philip Underwood applauds
Cassie Eldemar: applauds
Ceejay Writer whistles
Liz Wilner: The genre itself has been often considered a “lesser genre”…with critics often passing works off as mere “lovely landscapes with farm animal”, or “vanity pieces for wealth aristocrats”… but this is quite the misnomer.
Liz Wilner: It is an exciting genre spanning the 17th century to the present day. Appealing to a wide international base of collectors, it encompasses a range of subjects, from the thrill of the hunt to the denizens of the African plains horse racing to fox-hunting, fishing, game-shooting and hare-coursing, as well as cataloging prize farm animals via commissioned works.
Liz Wilner: World-record prices have been achieved in recent years for artists including Sir Alfred Munnings, James Seymour, Sir Peter Scott, Lionel Edwards, Wilhelm Kuhnert and David Shepherd. George Stubbs remains a pre-eminent painter to collect.
Liz Wilner: Sporting art concerns itself, above all, with the natural world and man’s relationship to it.
Tepic Harlequin: he! usually killin nature off!
Liz Wilner: It perhaps explains why it thrived throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, and even into the 20th century. Sporting pictures celebrate the environment people lived in — the English landscape.
Liz Wilner: To truly give you a feel for the genre, we would like to begin with a short video from the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts.
Liz Wilner: This video perfectly introduces the genre, much better than anything Lady Charik or I could write. The video is 5 minutes long…so quite short.
Oriella Charik: Please click on this Kinematograph tile to obtain the link, then find the ‘Full Screen’ button bottom right of the video to enlarge it. If you have ‘Autoplay’ set then please stop at the end of the video, which is about Five Minutes long.
Liz Wilner: For those of you wishing to watch on another viewer, the link is
Liz Wilner: Lady Charik has used her Wizard skills to also have this viewer here. Please start the video all together so that we may keep in time. Lady Charik will count down to start the video.
Jimmy Branagh: Movin’ pitchers!
Sophie Cloud: ((unavailable on youtube?))
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Duchess, there seems to be a problem with the address.
Liz Wilner: oh goodness
Jimmy Branagh: ((I’ve got it on the prim))
Tepic Harlequin: ((regional restrictions?))
Liz Wilner:
Wildstar Beaumont: it runs for me , even if not in full screen
Sophie Cloud: on outside browser, it is ‘video unavailable’ for me
Liz Wilner: oh dear
Oriella Charik:
Sophie Cloud: what is the title of the video? I shall search
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Aha!
Oriella Charik: Tru this one
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Lady Oriella has it.
Tepic Harlequin: ((got it on prim, in browser, not available, probably becasue of location))
OldeSoul Eldemar: yes
Sophie Cloud: it works! thank you 🙂
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: We were missing two characters at the end.
OldeSoul Eldemar: new link is fine
Oriella Charik: OK, Press play now!
Tepic Harlequin: redcoats!
Cassie Eldemar: 🙂
Liz Wilner: everyone can see?
Tepic Harlequin: yep
Liz Wilner: 🙂
Jimmy Branagh: yup
Ephemeria: yes
Tepic Harlequin: down with fox hunters!
Liz Wilner: lol
Junie Ginsburg covers Tepic’s ears
Jimmy Branagh: ((done for me))
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Someone’s about to get bitten in some of those paintings.
Liz Wilner: hehe
Sophie Cloud claps quietly
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Ah, that was short.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Danke, Damen.
Oriella Charik: Everyone finished?
Junie Ginsburg: yes
Tepic Harlequin: yep!
Jimmy Branagh: yup!
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: oh dear, I was enjoying it immensely. so sorry it was so short.
Cassie Eldemar: yes 🙂
Sophie Cloud nods
Liz Wilner: it is a really good introduction to the genre, yes?
Oriella Charik: On Youtube it is a series
OldeSoul Eldemar: I agree
Liz Wilner: In the early 18th century, breeders had begun to cross Arabian stallions with English mares, and the thoroughbred racehorse was duly born. The breed was soon all the rage.
Liz Wilner: The likes of Marshall and his master George Stubbs (1724-1806) depicted these horses at race meetings, and their pictures are at the core of a genre known as sporting art.
Tepic Harlequin: good advertisin too!
Liz Wilner: Speaking of Marshall, At the turn of the 19th century, the English artist Ben Marshall (1768-1835) claimed he knew ‘many a man who will pay 50 guineas for painting his horse [yet] thinks 10 guineas too much for painting his wife.’
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach snorts in amusement
Jimmy Branagh: hehe
Liz Wilner: Marshall was one of many artists who made a handsome living from aristocrats wanting to have their steeds captured on canvas. Her is an example of Marshall called The Malcom Arabian.
Wildstar Beaumont: &me chuckles
Liz Wilner: George Stubbs, sometimes referred to as the ‘Liverpudlian Leonardo’, is arguably the greatest painter of horses who ever lived. In large part, this was down to the scientific rigor and anatomical accuracy he brought to his work: the product of 18 months during which he locked himself away in a barn as a young man, dissecting, closely examining and drawing horses.
Liz Wilner: He’d go on to count various dukes and marquesses, not to mention the Prince of Wales (the future George IV), as his patrons.
Tepic Harlequin: some lovely horses
Liz Wilner: . Whistlejacket, Stubbs’ life-size portrait of the eponymous racehorse, is one of the most popular paintings in the National Gallery in London.
Liz Wilner: There are many other excellent artists of the genre, yet nearly all are compared to Stubbs.
Liz Wilner: John Ferneley Senior (1781-1860) The sixth son of a Leicestershire wheelwright, Ferneley moved to London to study at the Royal Academy School, before returning to his home county and settling in Melton Mowbray.
Liz Wilner: ) The Quorn in Full Cry
Tepic Harlequin: boooo!
Liz Wilner: John Frederick Herring Senior (1795-1865) He started out as a coachman on routes between London and Yorkshire, painting only in his spare time. In due course, he settled in Doncaster — one of the stops on his drives — and became an artist full-time, painting the horses of numerous Yorkshire families.
Liz Wilner: Among his best-known works are those of the winners of prestigious horse races, such as the St Leger Stakes and the Derby, which he attended each year.
Cassie Eldemar: the one fellow is surely in trouble
Liz Wilner: In 1845, he was asked by Queen Victoria’s mother, the Duchess of Kent, to paint the monarch’s two favourite horses. The resultant painting, Tajar and Hammon, was given to Victoria as a birthday present and forms part of the Royal Collection today.
Cassie Eldemar: *hushes
Liz Wilner: Archibald Thorburn (1860-1935) Much like Stubbs, Thorburn was a supreme observer — however birds rather than horses were his specialist subject.
Liz Wilner: He made frequent and extensive tours across the British Isles, seeking ornithological subjects to study.
Tepic Harlequin: that’s nothin ter grouse about 🙂
Junie Ginsburg giggles
Liz Wilner: . This often crossed over into sporting scenes, in images of driven grouse, for example. He created watercolours in the field, and they have a remarkable sense of immediacy because of this.
Jimmy Branagh chuckles
Ceejay Writer: I rather like the name Archibald Thorburn.
Liz Wilner: Cock Grouse
Liz Wilner: Sir Edwin Landseer (1802-1873) Named a Royal Academician while still in his twenties and knighted while in his forties.
OldeSoul Eldemar: !!!
Liz Wilner: Perhaps the most enduring reminders of his talent are the four bronze lions on London’s Trafalgar Square, which he modelled.
Liz Wilner: A favourite of Queen Victoria’s, Landseer made his name with pictures of stags, horses and dogs that exhibit very human behaviours.
Liz Wilner: The cut-and-thrust of his hunting scenes owed a clear debt to those of the Flemish master, Peter Paul Rubens, from 200 years earlier.
Liz Wilner: John Emms (1843-1912) Emms began as a studio assistant to Frederic, Lord Leighton, before striking out on his own as an animal portraitist.
Liz Wilner: He was praised for the vitality and individuality of his subjects, and particularly renowned for his dogs. Often these were hounds, boasting a remarkable range of freshness/tiredness and depicted with confident, fluid brushstrokes.
OldeSoul Eldemar: such detail
Liz Wilner: Emms was a keen huntsman himself and regularly went out with the packs of the New Forest area, where he lived most of his life. The Bolted Rabbit
Liz Wilner: Sir Alfred Munnings (1878-1959) After serving as a war artist, recording the activities of the Canadian Cavalry Brigade in France during the First World War, Munnings made a career out of horse-racing pictures and hunting scenes.
Liz Wilner: His style and subject matter were strongly influenced by the French Impressionist, Edgar Degas (who had also painted racing scenes).
Liz Wilner: Munnings particularly liked to capture that moment of hushed tension just before the race’s start, as the jockeys in their brightly colored silks prepare for the eruption of energy and excitement.
Liz Wilner: As a young man at the turn of the 20th century, Munnings was fascinated by the vagabond existence of the gypsies and travellers he met while exploring the country on horseback. Their unconventional lifestyle and brightly colored clothes and wagons inspired many of his early pictures, such as the Fortune Tellers at Epsom
Tepic Harlequin: nice bright painting, that one
Liz Wilner: While the first image anyone has of the genre of Sporting Art is of horses, horse racing, and various animals, there is a smaller area of the genre that depicted other popular sports and pastimes of the eras. For instance, here we have Boxing and Badger Baiting
Liz Wilner: In the 19th century, there was nothing more impressive than having the money to have a painting of one’s prize cow or pig. Wealthy British landowners were breeding animals larger and fatter than ever before. Proud of their achievements and eager for recognition, they commissioned paintings of themselves and their livestock.
Liz Wilner: And the public couldn’t get enough of them.
Cassie Eldemar: 🙂
Liz Wilner: The early 1800s was the peak of livestock painting. For farm animals, corpulence was key. In the paintings, the cow, sheep, and pigs are massive, yet oddly supported by only four spindly legs. Sometimes, their owner is painted in as well, proudly looking over their creation.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach chuckles
Liz Wilner: Other times the animal stands alone, seemingly ready to eat a nearby village. The simple style is often referred to as rustic or “naive” art, even though the subjects were animals belonging to a wealthy elite. The resulting images were part advertisement and part spectacle.
Jimmy Branagh: Thet’s quoite a cow
Liz Wilner: Fat cows, massive pigs, and obese sheep were prized as proof of their owners’ success in breeding for size and weight. Gentleman farmers used selective breeding to create quick-growing, heavy livestock.
Tepic Harlequin: looked like the biggest cow ever….
Jimmy Branagh: Fat, bald sheep
Liz Wilner: Along with breeding, new farming and feeding practices also produced larger animals. Rich farmers participated in agricultural competitions and read new research. They were called “improvers,” since they tried to improve on existing animal breeds.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Post-shearing, one reckons.
Liz Wilner: . Methods such as feeding cows oil cakes and turnips for a final fattening up before slaughter became widespread. Even Queen Victoria’s consort Prince Albert became an improver, showing off his prize pigs and cattle.
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: wow
Jimmy Branagh: Cor!
Oriella Charik: A porker!
Liz Wilner: Commissioned paintings and commercial prints often came with information like the animal’s measurements and the owner’s breeding efforts.
Jimmy Branagh: Thet one got inta someone’s lab an’ drank everything
Liz Wilner: the portraits were often exaggerated to emphasize the idealized animal shape, which usually consisted of “[providing] a bit more fat in crucial areas.” For pigs, the ideal was a football shape. Cows were rectangular, and sheep tended towards oblong.
Cassie Eldemar: goodness
Ceejay Writer: Reminds me of my cat.
OldeSoul Eldemar: laughs
Liz Wilner: lol
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach chokes quietly
Liz Wilner: Beyond making wealthy farmers famous, animal paintings and prints had a practical purpose.
Liz Wilner: Breeders across the country could use a specific animal’s image as a model for their own herd, since livestock that fit beauty ideals were worth much more.
Liz Wilner: My favorite is the huge pig…looks like he will eat that village!
Jimmy Branagh snickers
OldeSoul Eldemar: would increase the prices of breedables
Oriella Charik: I do not think we could find enough feed for one Duchess at Trikassi
Liz Wilner: lol
Liz Wilner: probably not
Ceejay Writer: (Proof I’m serious. )
Oriella Charik: Our last picture is a sentimental one by Landseer
Oriella Charik: “Saved”
Jimmy Branagh: ((Wow! God Emperor of DUNE))
Tepic Harlequin: oh…. though the dog had just caught his dinner!
Ceejay Writer: Tepic, really!
Liz Wilner: Tepic!
Liz Wilner: We hope you enjoyed our presentation today. We will be hosting a month long exhibit, beginning June 1 thru June 30th, at Ravenheart Museum of Arts, Culture & Curious Things in Laudanum, Rosehaven on British Sporting Art.
Jimmy Branagh chuckles
Ephemeria: *quitely giggles*
Sophie Cloud applauds
Liz Wilner: Please click on the poster for a landmark
Liz Wilner: The exhibit will be even more in depth and we hope you will all stop by and enjoy the many beautiful artworks.
Jimmy Branagh applauds
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach applauds
Junie Ginsburg applauds
Princess Selena: NIcely done, your Grace and Wizard!!
Liz Wilner: Thank you.
Cassie Eldemar: applauds
Jimmy Branagh: Thet wos an interstin’ talk!
Ceejay Writer: Wonderful eye candy – I enjoyed seeing all this art.
OldeSoul Eldemar: awesome !
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: This was lovely Your Grace and Oriella/ Thank you!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Any questions for our speakers?
Tepic Harlequin: were very good, didn’t need me shotgun once!
Cassie Eldemar: a lovely presentation:)
OldeSoul Eldemar: Loved the picture with moving words !
Junie Ginsburg: yes, the video was very well done!
Ceejay Writer: Also was interesting to hear of a war artist turning to this. I know lots of them went to newspapers, etc.
Jimmy Branagh: Well done!
Liz Wilner: That was Ori’s doing…she loves new fangled invention 😉
Wildstar Beaumont applauds
Junie Ginsburg: this was a fascinating topic I’d not thought much about previously, thank you!
Jimmy Branagh: I didn;t know it was a “genre”.
Wulfriðe Blitzen applauds
Liz Wilner: I do hope you will all come to see the exhibit in Rosehaven
Ceejay Writer: I really didn’t know what to expect.
Liz Wilner: starts June 1
Ephemeria: Thank you ladies
Liz Wilner: it is a genre all it’s own , yes
OldeSoul Eldemar: This was superb- I cannot wait to visit the museum
Junie Ginsburg: I look forward to seeing the exhibit!
Liz Wilner: please take a landmark for the exhibit 🙂
Tepic Harlequin: thank yer fer the talk, gotta run an show me gun to some friends!
Jimmy Branagh: See ya Tep!
Junie Ginsburg: bye Tepic!
Wulfriðe Blitzen: Take care, Tepic!
Philip Underwood: Perhaps I will drop in on the Exhibit with you Junie!
Oriella Charik: Thank you for your appreciation – and don’t forget Ascot JUne 20th!
Jimmy Branagh writes “June 1st” on his arm.
OldeSoul Eldemar: Well Dear- back to the track !
Cassie Eldemar: 🙂
Sophie Cloud: Be safe, have fun…. I must be going…
Liz Wilner: Thank you all so much for coming 🙂
Cassie Eldemar: thank you so much Duchess and Lady Charik 🙂
Cassie Eldemar: take care everyone ✿ faerie hugs ✿
Ephemeria: Thank you and hope to see you next Salon
Wulfriðe Blitzen: Take care!
OldeSoul Eldemar: Wonderful Your Grace and Lady Charik
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Thank you again for a wonderful event. I hope everyone enjoys the rest of their day.
Jimmy Branagh: Thenks ladies! It wos splendid!
Junie Ginsburg: bye Tam!
Wulfriðe Blitzen: Thank you very much ladies 🙂
Philip Underwood: Thankee
Liz Wilner smiles
Tamlorn Carterhaugh Wood: Cheers!
Liz Wilner: may I take the poster now? everyone get the landmark?
Junie Ginsburg: yes
Junie Ginsburg: wonderful presentation, need to head out — have a great day everyone!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Danke, everyone remaining, for your attendance.
Jimmy Branagh waves
Liz Wilner: Thank you, Jimmy, for the poster for this 🙂
Philip Underwood: Auf wiedersehen Herr Baron
Jimmy Branagh: Welcome Duchess!
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach nods at Herr Underwood
Philip Underwood: After you my dear
Liz Wilner: I hope that wasn’t too short this time, Baron
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Well timed, your Grace.
Liz Wilner: 🙂
Ceejay Writer: And I must away for kitchen duty. Thank you for a nice respite!
Jimmy Branagh: Thenks again Ladies! Oy’m off.
Baron Klaus Wulfenbach: Gute Nacht.
Jimmy Branagh bows to them, and to the Baron, and zips away

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